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09/30/2006

Republican Alert

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Responding to an unnecessary death

Cause and effect, action, reaction,

Recently I was sent one of those sad, patriotic stories that circulate on the internet. This one was one about a Marine escorting a fallen comrade on the plane trip back home. The sender knows that I am not a lock-step, bumper sticker patriot and I have told her in the past how much I abhor that mind-set. I decided to take the time to send her some opinion and some facts. Since she asked if it was ok for her to send what she sent, I started my email back to her:

I think it was a fine thing to send but just like there's a difference between loving your country and how you feel about it's government, there's a difference between opposing the war and honoring and supporting the unfortunate men and women who have been put in the middle of his terrible war.
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What I don't like is when people confuse the two and then criticize others for not being confused like them. Our present government wants and needs people to be confused. Bush, Cheney and their administration have conspired to confuse 9-11 with Iraq from the very beginning. Anyone who reads or follows what's been said would be foolish to deny this. There is no connection, there has never been a connection.
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Bush and company are the ones that do not honor our troops. They go through all the motions and sound like they do while cutting funding for Veterans and body armor. They have tried to fight this war on the cheap and have failed. Meanwhile over 9 billion has been misspent or worse:CNN.com - Audit: U.S. lost track of $9 billion in Iraq funds - Jan 30, 2005.
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T. Christian Miller: Too Little, Too Late? Too Bad. - Yahoo! News: "Stuart Bowen, the Special Inspector General for the Reconstruction of Iraq, released two audits: one showed that Pasadena-based Parsons had built a police academy so badly that raw sewage coursed down the walls. That's gotta send a positive message to the Iraqi police recruits we're training to take the place of U.S. soldiers. The second showed that Iraq had lost $16 billion in oil sales because of America's problems in rebuilding the oil infrastructure."
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These stories go on and on. Look at this calculator: National Priorities Project - Cost of War That's 10,000 dollars we're spending every 5 seconds to fight in a country where between 60% and 70% support attacks on American troops. USATODAY.com - Poll: Iraqis support attacks on U.S. troops 
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Meanwhile, Americans are clearly divided on whether they support the war or not. http://www.ipr.uc.edu/PDF/OhioPoll/op092806.pdf On top of the numbers the fact remains that we are in the middle of a civil war in Iraq. Iraq in a Civil War for 59% of Americans: Angus Reid Global Monitor  Also from the same article:
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"On Sept. 24, portions of the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE, all 16 intelligence agencies of our government) were released by several media outlets in the U.S. The document says the war in Iraq has "increased the terrorist threat" against the United States."
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It's time to support our troops by bringing them home. Bush is wrong to say the terrorists will follow us here. They may try to come here but the chances that they would succeed, especially if we had invested the money that we've spent in Iraq on our homeland security and if we had spent it wisely, are slim to none. Are we beyond that? If we are so incompetent that we cannot protect our borders, survey our airlines and inspect incoming shipping containers, things that we should have been done effectively immediately after 9-11, then we can't win a war in Iraq either.
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Thanks for your patience with me and I do appreciate that you take the time to consider what I send you.   Gene

Quote for the day

Thanks to Karen for reminding me to post, 

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money ." - Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (in the 1920s); reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time

                                                                                        Taken from: The Money Masters

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How many times can a man turn a page and pretend that he just doesn't see?

Scathe, scathed, scathing,
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Yesterday I mentioned, or rather, placed a link to a New York Times stoy on: State of Denial,  a new book by Bob Woodward. His latest veers from the course of his first Bush book, Bush at War, 2002, by not only 180 degrees, but has established a new axis of condemnation. There's nothing pretty or endearing, even Laura sulks and worries.
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Yesterday, Woodward's book was listed in the NYTs section new analysis today it's reviewed under arts: A Portrait of the President as the Victim of His Own Certitude - New York Times. So, for two days running, the NYTs has kept the spotlight on. The book must either be a page turner, a stomach turner or, both.
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I haven't read it, I may, but it sounds pretty much like a reiteration of what everyone's known and has been saying, not on the front pages necessarily but behind the scenes in the hallways of power and in the left wing publications. While the economy supposedly trickles down, the truth seems to trickle up.
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It's good that it's out there, and by Woodward who's generally regarded as first rate. Woodward may be one of the few that has the gravitas needed to out-Bush, Bush. But, although the details may be new, that's about all that is. An argument can be made that Woodward's jumping on the, kick bush when his numbers are down campaign. And that's fine with me. This is one ideology that NEEDS stamped into the ground, completely shredded and then burned into our memories. Gene

 

Comment worth repeating

From the comments section, posted by markg8,

Tomorrow [today] Tammy Duckworth, candidate for the retiring Henry Hyde's seat (IL-06) gives the Democratic response to Bush's weekly radio address. On Nov. 4 2004, 1 day after Kerry conceded to Bush Duckworth's legs were blown off by an rpg as she piloted her Blackhawk helicopter in Iraq. Peter Roskam, her asshole opponent has already gotten torn a new one for talking "cut and run" in her presence. Tomorrow is Bush's turn. After the broadcast the webcast should be up on her website:

http://www.duckworthforcongress.com

09/29/2006

Dick in a truck

Thanks to Jen
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Nanny state republicans

The rise and fall of the American civilization, 

It's time to admit we lost and we lost big. The democrats wouldn't rally a filibuster against the new torture legislation and instead settled for a bargain that was doomed to failure: amendments that did not pass. Meanwhile the gang of three, McCain, Graham and Warner who initially denounced the abrogation of the Geneva Convention protections have voted with the president and have allowed him to apply them as he sees fit.

Spector who opposes tyranny in the abstract supported it again in practice. McCain may be right when he says, "We've done the best we can," but he should add, and our best wasn't good enough. Spector's rational for supporting the bill: "...the court will clean it up," by striking the habeas corpus provisions.

And then there's the protect their ass provision: "The senators agreed to a White House proposal to make the standard on interrogation treatment retroactive to 1997, so C.I.A. and military personnel could not be prosecuted for past treatment under standards the administration considers vague."

It's all neat and tidy except, as Spector indicated, the whole thing will end up in the Supreme Court but at least they can say that they passed comprehensive legislation and even though it's a sham and a fraud, that's what's important 40 days before an election.

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More bad news for the disgruntled:

On Tuesday The Free Market Network News carried an article that said: Something bad is about to happen

"We hate to sound apocalyptic. We loathe the politics of fear (even if it works!). So we're not looking to scare you. But you need to know that the end is near for "archaic" ideas like . . . "

* the right to security in your home and papers
* the right to be free from unreasonable searches
* the safety net of judicial warrant requirements
* the right to a trial by a jury of your peers in a system of due process
* reasonable bail and recourse for false arrest
* protection from cruel and unusual punishment

"Those were great ideals for "dead white men," but apparently your children won't need them anymore. Because, you know, the politicians need to protect you and your children from terrorism".

Yesterday:

"The House of Representatives, backing President George W. Bush, approved legislation allowing the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on international phone calls involving terrorist suspects."

"The vote in the Republican-controlled House yesterday was 232-191 vote in favor of the measure, which authorizes the government to perform the surveillance without obtaining immediate court approval."

John Conyers, top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee who voted against the bill said:

"Hidden in the fine print are provisions which grant the administration authority to maintain permanent records on innocent U.S. citizens, granting the administration new authority to demand personal records without court review, and terminating any and all legal challenges to unlawful wiretapping," said Rep. John Conyers, top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee."

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Meanwhile, more dogs are nipping at Bush's heels. Book Says Bush Ignored Urgent Warning on Iraq - New York Times
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It turns out that Jack Abramoff was a regular visitor to the White House, much more regular than admitted in the past:
Congress Chronicles Abramoff's Contacts - washingtonpost.com "The draft report of the House Government Reform Committee said the documents _ largely Abramoff's billing records and e-mails _ listed 485 lobbying contacts with White House officials over three years, including 10 with top Bush aide Karl Rove."

Maybe he was meeting Jeff Gannon, aka James Guckert?

The Raw Story | Secret Service records raise new questions about discredited conservative reporter "Guckert made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure with the fledging conservative websites GOPUSA and Talon News, attending 155 of 196 White House press briefings. He had little to no previous journalism experience, previously worked as a male escort..."

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Yesterday Bush fired off some angry words at democrats while campaigning for Alabama Gov. Bob Riley in Birmingham. Bush scolds 'party of cut and run' - Nation/Politics - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

 "The party of FDR and the party of Harry Truman has become the party of cut and run."  And, "Truth is, the Democrats are using the NIE to mislead the American people and justify their policy of withdrawal from Iraq," he said. 
   

Democrats taunted back, saying Mr. Bush has a chance to prove himself right by releasing the entire intelligence document.

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I've heard it, you've heard it, we've all heard it over and over, Bush maintaining that his Job is to protect the American people. I don't like his form of protection. I don't like lobbyists and gay hookers having unlimited access to the White House. I don't like how he ignored warnings pre-9-11 and then amassed totalitarian powers in response. I don't like how congress bowls to his every whim.

When Bush says it's HIS JOB to protect us, a bell should go off in our collective heads. Thank you Mr. President but we've done just fine in the past protecting ourselves. Your job, Mr. President is to facilitate that protection and act at the behest of the American people, not to assume the powers of an imperial ruler or of a benevolent dictator. AND you have one primary and overriding obligation, as per your oath of office: to preserve, to protect and defend the constitution of the United States.   Gene

09/28/2006

Policy Plunge

Working through the desperation, 

I'm tapped out. I don't know what to make of the republican's stance on the latest issues. As far as I can see they defend the indefensible. If I've learned anything following politics since Bush was appointed president it's, don't take your off the ball for one single second. Any party that tries to pass off Ann Coulter a pundit has draped itself in dishonesty and hate.

I did see AL Franken eat Tony Blankley's lunch on Chris Matthews the other night and it brought me hope . MSNBC Video (Click on the disgruntled face of Al to watch.) But the republicans are doing so much bobbing, weaving and throwing so much shit against the wall hoping something sticks that their stinking up any prospect for an honest debate. And, of course, just like they don't want a majority of people to vote, they don't want an honest debate either.

Bush suddenly becomes magnanimous and offers to release portions of the NIE only after his handlers and advisors have figured out how to spin it's selectively released portions and only after his own party demanded it be released. The Center for American Progress opines that Congress should INSIST that whole report be released and let the American people decide where the truth lies.Declassify the National Intelligence Estimates on Terrorism and Iraq - Center for American Progress They offer what they say is the same intelligence from their own sources:

"That same information, however, is available at CAP, albeit gathered in a different fashion. In late June we published our Terrorism Index, in which well-known national security experts of all political persuasions confirmed what the U.S. Intelligence Community independently concluded—America is less safe from a terrorist attack than five years ago precisely because of the ill-conceived invasion of Iraq. Since then, we've proposed a plan to take control of the fight against terrorists and elaborated on our long-standing policy prescription to redeploy out of Iraq to better fight Al Qaeda and other terrorist networks inspired by Al Qaeda and our invasion of Iraq."

The fact that American policy makers are intractable on Iraq and have Iran in their cross hairs should scare the beejesus out of us, it does me. Just what do we have to gain by staying that we haven't already lost? I don't know if this is an unknown to the White House but once you've lost your credibility you've lost everything. Maybe that's what this insanity is really about, not winning the secondary consideration: the war, but winning back the credibility that they never really had, that they think they had.

Bush has conceded though, that it will be up to future presidents to decide what to do about Iraq. He seems to be either content to have history vindicate him for Iraq or just kick it down the road while trying to hang on as long as he can and hope the mess takes care of itself, which is either as desperate as a man can get or as disconnected as a man can get.

Bush is like a man on the way down after a suicide plunge, he knows he fucked up and that he can't go back, he falls and prays that wings sprout from his shoulders.  Gene

09/26/2006

A novel approach to understanding

The Russians are coming, 

Are we living in the United States or a Russian Novel? Dostoevsky would be proud of all the lies, twists and turns of our plot to bring peace to the world. You and I, the long suffering proletariat, may warrant a line or two but the story would be about power and love. Which makes me wonder how this loveless bunch at the top stacks up in anything other than self-love?

Their antiseptic, quasi-Christianity should demand love for mankind including their enemies but passion seems antithetical to their anemic lives in every respect except one: murder. Here's a line from Dostoevsky that could just as well be uttered By George W. Bush at a press conference, sans eloquence:

 "But you're a poet, and I'm a simple mortal, and therefore I will say one must look at things from the simplest, most practical point of view. I, for one, have long since freed myself from all shackles, and even obligations. I only recognize obligations when I see I have something to gain by them. You. of course, can't look at things like that, your legs are in fetters and your taste is morbid. You yearn for the ideal, for virtue. But, my dear friend, I am ready to recognize anything you tell me to, but what shall I do if I know for a fact that at the root of all human virtues lies the most intense egoism?" (Prince Valkovsky in The Insulted and Humiliated, 1861)

Egotism. I think it can be argued that our leaders are enmeshed in it. Bush and his crew have done all but said, "My way or the highway." And, while the rest of us slink, stir and wrestle with the other issues that plague the characters in a Russian tome: freedom of choice, socialism, atheisms, good, evil, happiness and so forth, Bush transverses the path of certitude with all the grace and insight of a marauding rouge elephant.

Perhaps, in the end, in a strange permutation of Dostoevsky's Idiot; Prince Myshkin, aka The Idiot, aka George W. Bush will be sent back to Crawford rather than Switzerland to live out his life in peaceful bliss while the rest of the world either recovers in a reordered, lessor world, or continues in its deathward spiral.

"In the end, the prince is sent back to Switzerland. He is an idiot again, as he was before the events of the story started. The Yepanchins (except Aglaya), Radomsky and Prince S visit him. They all forgive him. Rogozhin is sentenced to fifteen years of hard labor in Siberia. Aglaya marries a Polish. The good Christian, our Prince Myshkin, has been reduced back to an idiot."    Gene

09/25/2006

In it up to his neck in every aspect, gun for hire, John Negroponte

Partial chronology of John Negroponte's involvement in subterfuge and imperialism, primarily compiled from New York Times archived articles,

February 1, 1989: Mr. Negroponte, 49, a career Foreign Service officer since 1960, served as the Ambassador to Honduras from 1981 to 1985, and was deeply involved in the efforts of the Reagan Administration to build up the Nicaraguan contras as a military force. He has been serving as Deputy National Security adviser since November 1987.

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April 19, 1989: A Senate committee postponed action today on President Bush's nominee (Negroponte) to be Ambassador to Mexico because of continuing questions about his involvement in the Iran-contra affair during the Reagan Administration.
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February 18, 2001: President Bush has selected John D. Negroponte a three-time ambassador who has served in some of America's most sensitive diplomatic posts -- to become the next ambassador to the United Nations, an administration official said today.John D Negroponte's nomination as United Nations ambassador is stalled in Senate over his 1981-85 role as ambassador to Honduras: at issue is whether he ignored human rights abuses there while working to back contras' fight against leftist Sandinista government in neighboring Nicaragua; Senate committee has put off hearings awaiting classified documents on his activities; Democratic critics predict he will eventually win confirmation, after grilling by senators.
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June 14, 2001: Mr. Negroponte has denied knowing of such abuses. But an inquiry by the Central Intelligence Agency several years ago found that serious rights violations in Honduras were not properly reported to Washington during Mr. Negroponte's tenure. Most of the report is blacked out, and the unclassified parts raise questions about Mr. Negroponte without providing answers. In a letter published June 20, 2001 in the NYTs John Hanson wrote:

A 1997 C.I.A. report notes ''embassy did not want information concerning human rights abuses . . . to be disseminated,'' as it would ''reflect negatively on Honduras and not be beneficial in carrying out U.S. policy.'' The report continues: ''No further reporting on the prisoner executions . . . there was concern on the part of Negroponte that over-emphasis would create an unwarranted human rights problem for Honduras.

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August 18, 2001: A NYTs editorial called for a senate investagation into John Negroponte's conduct as ambassador to Honduras during Nicaragua's civil war two decades ago.

The Senate must also establish whether Mr. Negroponte was aware of and made any effort to prevent the death squad activities of a Honduran Army battalion trained and financed by the United States. The U.N. job is symbolically important, especially in the areas of human rights and adherence to law. When the Senate confirmed Mr. Negroponte to serve in Mexico and the Philippines, his record in Honduras was not thoroughly explored. It should be now.

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September 11, 2001.

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September 14, 2001: The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, anxious to fill the post of United States ambassador to the United Nations, approved the nomination of John D. Negroponte for the job today. Mr. Negroponte, pressed on various human rights cases in Honduras and on what he discussed with the contras, told the Senate committee he could not remember.

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September 29, 2001: UN Security Council unanimously adopts US-sponsored resolution obliging all 189 member countries to crack down on financing, training and movement of terrorists, and to cooperate in any campaign against them, including use of force; Amb John D Negroponte says US is very encouraged by rapid, unanimous action on agreement that reflects broad support for crackdown

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October 9, 2001: United States Ambassador to UN John Negroponte letter to Security Council says US cannot rule out taking actions against other groups and countries beyond Afghanistan in response to Sept 11 terrorist attacks; says inquiry is in early stages and may uncover need for further self-defense; together with similar letter from Great Britain, serves as formal notification of joint military action against suspected terrorist bases.

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October 10, 2001: The United States ambassador to the United Nations relayed a warning to Iraq this week not to ''take advantage'' of the attacks on New York and Washington by stirring up trouble, American officials said today.

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November 9, 2002: excerpts from speeches delivered yesterday to the United Nations Security Council after the vote on the resolution Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq concerning weapons inspections in Iraq. John D. Negroponte, United States Ambassador, "The resolution makes clear that any Iraqi failure to comply is unacceptable and that Iraq must be disarmed. And one way or another, Mr. President, Iraq will be disarmed."

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March 21, 2003: Iraq Chronology British and American land forces enter Iraq, taking control of areas bordering Kuwait and parts of the Faw Peninsula. British marines seize some oil export facilities and U.S. armored columns push further into Iraq towards the Rumaila oilfields. About 7 oilfields are set on fire by Iraqi forces. U.S. special forces begin conducting significant operations with Kurdish units in the north of Iraq. A primary objective of Coalition forces is to take control of oil wells before they can be sabotaged by Iraqi forces. Coalition air strikes continue on military targets throughout the country." (Reuters, DJ)

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May 15, 2003: It was unclear yesterday [during Security Council questioning about the legal ramifications of a new draft resolution lifting sanctions and recognizing the forces that attacked Iraq as the legal authority in Iraq] whether the United States push for speed, driven in part, Mr. Negroponte said, by the need to begin emptying full oil storage tanks, will help or hurt in its drive to achieve consensus.

A related issue raised in the closed session, according to three people present, was whether the Council has the authority to expand on the provisions of the Geneva Conventions governing the responsibilities and limitations of ''occupying powers.''

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April 14, 2004: President Bush is expected to select John D Negroponte, veteran diplomat and current United States representative to United Nations, as ambassador to Iraq once sovereignty is given over to government in Baghdad on June 30.

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June 28, 2004: Iraq Chronology The transfer of sovereignty in Iraq from the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), led by U.S. diplomat Paul Bremer, to an interim Iraqi government, led by President Ghazi al Yawer and Prime Minister Iyad Allawi occurs, two days ahead of schedule. It is hoped that a government led by Iraqis will be more acceptable than the CPA to many Iraqis. Legal, though not physical, custody of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is awarded to the new Iraqi government on June 30. (Reuters)

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June 28, 2004: L. Paul Bremer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: At 10:26 AM local time, the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority formally transferred limited sovereignty of Iraqi territory to the Iraqi interim government, two days ahead of schedule. Bremer departed from the country on the same day. John Negroponte replaced Bremer as the highest ranking American civilian in Iraq.

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August 31, 2004: The new American ambassador in Iraq, concerned about the problems of unemployed Iraqis and by attacks on the country's oil fields, has urged the Bush administration to shift money away from infrastructure improvements and use it to improve security and job opportunities, Bush administration officials said Monday.

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Feburary 17, 2005John Negroponte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia President George W. Bush named Negroponte as the first Director of National Intelligence, a position created due to recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission completed late in 2004. On April 21, 2005, Negroponte was confirmed by a vote of 98 to 2 in the Senate, and subsequently sworn in. (Oddly enough, the New York Time's report on the same day were more focused on Michael Hayden's appointment as deputy director, they did, however, report on it on the 18th in 3 different, mostly laudatory articles). One NYTs article that day did contain this quote, "I want to get out of Baghdad as soon as possible." He said, "They want me to come back for something, but I want to do the private sector.''

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February 18th: An article questions Negroponte's past and involvement in human right violations:

''In Central America,'' Ms. Coliver (Sandra Coliver, executive director of the Center for Justice and Accountability) said, ''Negroponte is indelibly remembered for his role in increasing the amount of U.S. aid to the Honduran military at the very time that the military's role in supporting brutal death squads was becoming abundantly clear. What kind of a message will this appointment send to the people of Central America? That the U.S. is willing to overlook massive human rights atrocities in the name of collecting intelligence in pursuit of U.S. national interests.'' 

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March 4, 2005: President Bush traveled to the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency on Thursday and sought to reassure its director and nervous employees that they would not be undermined once John D. Negroponte assumes the new position of national director of intelligence.

Further exploration of Negroponte's past and present by the NYTs in its March 29 2005 article revealed concerning human right violations:

This period has haunted Mr. Negroponte. Not only rights activists but also Jack R. Binns, Mr. Negroponte's predecessor as ambassador, have accused him of discouraging reporting to Washington of abductions, torture and killings by notorious Honduran military units.

''I think he was complicit in abuses, I think he tried to put a lid on reporting abuses and I think he was untruthful to Congress about those activities,'' said Mr. Binns, now retired in Arizona.

Negroponte is quoted saying, ''Could I have been more vocal?'' Mr. Negroponte said. ''Well, you know, in retrospect perhaps I could have been.''  Declassified records from 1983 show Mr. Negroponte asking Washington to authorize 3,000 weapons to be shipped secretly to Honduras to arm the contras.

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April 13, 2005: Hundreds of newly released cables that John D. Negroponte sent to Washington while serving as ambassador to Honduras in the 1980's show that he played a more central and assertive role than previously known in managing the United States' covert war against Nicaragua's leftist government, which he called ''our special project.''

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August 1, 2005: Editorial praises national intelligence director John Negroponte for common-sense precautions he has ordered to avoid more poorly sourced, poorly vetted intelligence reports like those on Iraq's nonexistent weapons of mass destruction; says Congress should insist on thorough investigation of those faulty reports.

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January 12, 2006: The director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, has created new ''mission managers'' for Iran and North Korea, adding those two countries to a short list of top-priority challenges for American intelligence agencies.

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April 20, 2006:The top Republican and the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee have disagreed publicly about many things, but on one issue they have recently come together. Both are disquieted by the first-year performance of John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence. ''I don't think we have a lot to show yet for the intelligence reform,'' said Mark M. Lowenthal, a former top C.I.A. official and Congressional intelligence staff member.

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May 10, 2006: Headline New York Times, Clash Foreseen Between C.I.A. And Pentagon

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September 8, 2006: President Bush announced his proposal for bringing terror suspects to trial on Wednesday as part of a round of speeches on national security aimed at drawing a sharp distinction between the two parties: Democrats as weak on terror, Republicans strong. 

Senior administration officials said the decision to acknowledge the C.I.A. program, to move the 14 ''high value'' detainees to Guantánamo and to set up a new system for putting them on trial emerged from a committee President Bush established in January which included Mr. Cheney, Ms. Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte.
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 September 14, 2006: The White House took a critical step on Wednesday in its effort to get Congressional blessing for President Bush's domestic eavesdropping program, but it ran into increasingly fierce resistance from leading Republicans over its plan to try terror suspects being held in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

The administration pushed back, convening a conference call in which John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, described the Senate alternative as unacceptable. Mr. Negroponte said the plan would impose intolerable limits on any interrogation methods American intelligence officers might use against future terror suspects held by the Central Intelligence Agency in secret overseas prisons.

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